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Kara Dansky's avatar

I was literally watching this on X when this post landed in my inbox. lol

MadFem ♀️'s avatar

She needs to keep to herself until she can figure out what her opinion is. This is dangerous rhetoric to be spreading all over the internet just because it gives you the warm and fuzzies. Thank goodness for you, Amy.

Cece's avatar
Jun 6Edited

As much as I admire and respect women who would IMMEDIATELY have shouted: “you are a fucking man! Get out of my space!” in that situation..? I don’t know if I would have, or not, because I haven’t knowingly been in that situation, during the last few years. Although I sure HOPE I would have! And I think chances are good that I might have, because I absolutely am capable of instinctive adrenaline fuelled rage responses! (The other week, I shouted at, and very angrily flipped off, a guy in a car who drove on green, and easily could have hit me. Then he screamed curses at me from the car window. And I very angrily cursed him out right the fuck back!! 😜) But at the same time..? There have also been times that I have fled, or frozen, instead. So it depends, and I don’t think we can always know how we will respond. And I guess fawning is also a response, meant to placate and pacify the dangerous man. So personally..? I will not think any less of a woman who, for instance, freezes in this kind of situation, because fear instantly overtakes her. Or who flees. I think, if you don’t manage to fight..? Then flee!! Fleeing is the second best response, and what I think I would have gone for, if I did NOT have it in me to fight that day. It keeps you safe, AND it also manages to, in its own way, impart a message to these men, of: “I am NOT okay with you being here!!” Unlike freezing, or fawning.

So yeah… I don’t blame her for freezing, in and on itself, which I guess is what she did. She never should have been put in this situation, to start with, and I’m so sorry that any woman is, ever. What I do blame her for, though? Is then coming online, to try to justify why that means him being there was TOTALLY okay, somehow, and trying to model being okay with this predator being there, to others! I believe in honesty and self-awareness. And I think the right thing for women to do, if we end up having a suboptimal or dissociative automatic response, in these situations, is to then retrospectively reflect on it, and go: “wow, I was really scared of confrontation, there! So because of it, I just sort of froze, and tried to justify his violation of my boundaries to myself! This does NOT make me a failure as a person. But I should still be honest with myself and other women about what actually happened, here, if I choose to share this story! Or else I will be lying, and grooming them to ALSO just dissociate and accept such blatant boundary violation, if it happens to them! Plus also, next time, I’ll try to listen to my own instincts more, and maybe I can at least manage to flee, instead of freezing!”

If this had been me, and I had chosen to tell other women about it, that is how I would have framed it. Then again, that’s more or less impossible if you re still telling yourself that men can be women, and overall accepting the insane demands and premises of gender ideology, though. Which she clearly still does. And.. she seems so utterly defeated, gaslit and manipulated, in regards to that, I actually feel quite sorry for her. Like: “I go along with this because society tells me that I HAVE TO!” Yet no part of her seems happy about it. Even if she tells herself that she is. 🫤

Danielle's avatar

So watch out for male family members but a mentally ill man who's most likely a woman hating AGP who's trespassed into female only spaces at the gym is fine.🤔 These women really ride my nerves.

Erin Lamb's avatar

I would like to add that, in addition to the reasons you cite for these caveats, there also remains a deeply embedded mistrust and fear of men, because of that asymmetry of harm, so that to actually call out that female-impersonating male, is to potentially put yourself in harm's way. "If I confront this guy, he might hurt me."

I Rose's avatar

My “Mantra of Now. In 2020 was the foloweing quote:

All life, regardless (!!!) of its form, classification or reputation,

will respond to genuine interest, respect, appreciation, admiration,

affection, gentleness, courtesy and good manners."

[A Kinship With All Life" J. Allen Boone, 1954]

I shortened the Mantra ~2024 to:

All ‘we’ need is Common Sense & Good Manners

Now comes That Vital ‘Ingredient Which Was/IS Missing; staring at ‘us’ all; beating ‘us’ over ‘our’ collective head with continuous, untold atrocities, death & destruction:

Healthy Borders & Healthy, Good Boundaries.

of course with all life with no exceptions

Thank you!