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Titty Boobowitz's avatar

I’ve also had cancer (thyroid) and the idea of introducing hormones for any reason other than if you don’t you could die, it’s a such a gamble. For every human body, I can’t bypass rationality to believe there’s actual good that comes out of intentional hormone overdoses.

Cece's avatar

I think people should just call it what it is, which is: you are actively and increasingly POISONING a female body, if you subject it to male levels of testosterone. With the damage accumulating over time. Same thing with subjecting a male body to female levels of estrogen. Our bodies are sexually dimorphic for a reason, and while male bodies have evolved to accommodate male levels of testosterone, female bodies have not. It is absolutely insane that people want to ignore this, for the sake of political correctness, and some mistaken notion of “equality”, whatever. Different bodies have different medical needs, and sex is one thing that has got a HUGE impact on those needs! Another example: to a diabetic person, extra insulin, at the right dosage, is a LIFE SAVING medication!! But to someone who does NOT have diabetes..? It is a potentially fatal poison. And yes, I know these people tell themselves: “I was born to be male, thus my body was MEANT TO run on testosterone, and I am just simply correcting a mistake that nature made, and returning my hormone levels to what they SHOULD HAVE been!” Much like how, in the case of diabetes, diabetics inject insulin, which is also a hormone, in an attempt to mimick the body’s natural insulin production, which has been compromised due to their illness. But that is a COMPLETELY different thing from what opposite sex pretenders do!! In the case of diabetes, there is a REAL physical illness, (of the pancreas, in that case), which means the body does not sufficiently produce an essential hormone it naturally WOULD be producing!! (In the case of type 1 diabetes, that is. In the case of type 2, the body becomes DESENSITIZED to the insulin.) Whereas with this stuff..? Your body is functioning EXACTLY how it’s supposed to, in its healthy state, with its production of sex hormones! And what they claim is a “hormonal imbalance” that they need to correct..? Is simply them feeling a MENTAL and EMOTIONAL wish, in their heads, that their body was of the other sex, and had the sex hormone profile associated with the sex that they are not! There is no REAL hormonal problem / imbalance / deficiency, there, and their bodies absolutely do NOT care that they mentally and emotionally do not like their sex, and WISH their bodies needed the levels of sex hormones associated with the other sex! As they are still NOT that sex! Just like, if a healthy person “identifies” as diabetic, or a diabetic person “identifies” as non diabetic, our bodies also don’t care, at ALL!!! This is PRECISELY as insane as that, just that: 1. society has accepted gender ideology, thus pretends like this is sane, and: 2. screwing with your sex hormones is not as IMMEDIATELY lethal and fatal as screwing with your insulin levels can potentially be. But the accumulating physical damage can ABSOLUTELY still kill you, over time!!! Messing with this shit, in the name of sex denialism, is just patently insane, period.

Also, another thing I often think about: how most people who wish they were the other sex don’t seem to think of sex hormones in terms of their impact on overall physical health, (and in this case, them being POISONOUS at opposite sex dosages), and what their bodies actually need to be healthy. But rather, they tend to think of them as shallow AESTHETICS enhancers, that they take to make them LOOK and sound a certain way!! Which is completely batshit crazy!! Sure, it may just give you the aesthetic changes that you want, too. IF you luck out in that department. (Often, they also give people side effects that they do NOT want, and not the side effects that they DO want. And women on “T” often don’t end up looking like the hot anime twink boys, whatever, that they imagined. More like obese women with extra beard growth, irreversible male pattern baldness, and a permanently distorted helium chipmunk voice, that are still very easily clockable, clearly unhealthy, and have now ALSO lost their beauty, along with their health. Not to be petty, but.. that is often how it turns out.) But in addition to it maybe POSSIBLY giving you some of the shallow physical changes that you may want..? It is also wreaking absolute havoc on your non visible organs, compromising your body’s most important systems, and bringing about tons of pathological, dangerous, accumulating changes on the INSIDE, that you won’t even see, until your health starts to suffer! Just.. how these women, and their doctors, think about voluntary testosterone poisoning, is so hecking SHALLOW and superficial!!! Sort of like dosing yourself with a transdermal poison, and continuously applying it as a cream, simply because it makes your SKIN look lovely. While it simultaneously poisons your body from the inside, which you just wilfully IGNORE, because you like the effects on your skin so much!! That is what these women are doing. And also, the men taking estrogen. Which, I think I remember this woman saying, at some point in the interaction, that she saw doing this to herself as an act of self-love..? Well, this is why it absolutely isn’t, and it never can be!!! This is GIVING IN to a mental illness that makes you want to harm and destroy yourself. There is absolutely NOTHING even remotely pretty or sacred about it.

Also, another thing: what if, due to the harm to her physical health, she eventually has to stop poisoning herself? Then some of the effects will reverse, while others won’t. And she will be forever stuck in a sort of partial No Man’s Land. Being still female, but now a visibly virilized woman, who will never fit in with the men, but will also no longer fully fit in with women. She will be attractive to exceedingly few people, and she will no longer fully belong anywhere. That is the harsh truth of it, and even if that seems fun and subversive now, it is just NOT going to be, in the long run. Many women may no longer feel safe around you, and no longer want you in our spaces. Yet you still won’t fit in and belong in male spaces, either. You will have a mutilated chest, and disfigured, overgrown female genitals, that are NOT male genitals, but are also no longer normal female genitals. Rather a grotesque, warped alteration of them. Along with the telltale chipmunk voice, that does not sound like a male voice, but also no longer sounds like a normal female voice. (Which.. female voices are BEAUTIFUL, for the record!! I absolutely love them, and every time a woman sacrifices hers to this evil insanity, it makes me want to cry. 😢)

..Apologies to any regretful female detransitioners who may read this. I really feel for you! And I absolutely see you as sisters, regardless of what has happened to you! Plus I do my best NOT to use this kind of language around detransitioners, because I don’t want to make you feel even worse about yourselves. I really hope you can still love and embrace yourselves, exactly as you are now!! You are still loveable and worthwhile, in spite of what was taken from you. But: in order to make these women, who are currently considering if they might want to poison and destroy themselves, for the sake of a delusion / mental illness, understand what it is really all about..? Harsh but accurate words are 100% needed, me thinks!! And we really should not sugarcoat it, WHATSOEVER. The phrase “scared straight” comes to mind. Society using pretty, sugarcoated words to conceal the ugly reality of what this shit actually is..? Is exactly why they’re considering it, to begin with.

Lida H's avatar

The whole thing is evil.

Bose Roman's avatar

Yes! The "transition" process is harsh, and needs to be described with harsh words. the euphemisms used by the industry should be outlawed!

Pirate Hag's avatar

What are the aspects of manhood you admire or envy? One of the things I have admired about some young men I’ve known is how sunny, optimistic and confident they were in themselves, and full of action and plans. A lot of it seemed to come down to a positive mindset, an outgoing personality, rejection of any pettiness in interpersonal relationships, emotional regulation, and a determination to make the most of themselves. It goes without saying that they hit the gym and they wouldn’t seek out any sort of medicalisation or cosmetic surgery. If your life centres around ruminating, emotionality, and wanting to control how others perceive you - that is not “manly”. Change your worldview, learn from men - and women - who have a courageous, positive, active, down-to-earth and genuinely authentic approach to life.

Erin Lamb's avatar

I genuinely hope that this woman's desire to transition isn't a stab and some kind of socially "acceptable" suicide, to kill oneself without actually killing oneself.

Betina Søndergaard's avatar

Thank you for this talk.

I notice that this girl did not know, because doctors never told her, about these horrible effects of taking wrong sex hormones.

All of these doctors should be sued into oblivion