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Lida H's avatar

I do not believe that any of these men are in fact "scared" of other men - except in that they do not want to be laughed or sneered at by other men.

That, I believe, is the extent of it. As Cece points out - the vast majority of these men are extremely narcissistic and sociopathic.

Maya Luna's avatar

At the end of the day, I don't think they want to fight for their own spaces because using our spaces is part of their validation. They want the validation of passing and so need to use Womens spaces as part of that validation/confirmation. To have a unique trans space would highlight the fact that they are trans when what they want is to be seen as women. It's a kind of radical narcissism thats hard to even grasp. Like the trans athletes in Womens sports. Their desires trump everything including moral clarity and decency. And their need for gender validation takes precedence over everything else. Entitled narcissism.

Cece's avatar

I am completely against giving them separate “trans” spaces. “Trans” is a lie, and we need to not cater to it, or compromise with this destructive, despicable, society and reality disintegrating worldview, one bit!! The more we pretend like it is real, the more people are encouraged to BELIEVE in it. It’s all a part of the manipulation. We need to keep loudly insisting that there is no such thing!!

That being said, though, I don’t mind a few single-stall unisex bathrooms also existing. There are already a LOT of them, where I live. Plus they are useful to, for instance, people with disabilities, or people who just want or need to be completely alone as they relieve themselves, for whatever reason. I am not one bit against that, and people of both sexes can of course use them if they want to, regardless of any possible delusions they may or may not have. However, I am extremely against creating special public “trans” spaces. I am against anything that validates their despicable, patently false worldview.

Reese's avatar

Agreed. They want our spaces for validation, to violate, and because to use the men's would “out” them. I don't care. Keep the poles away from the holes.

Cece's avatar

Sadly, I think almost none of the abusive, entitled, narcissistic, woman hating men that you address this to are actually going to care. You can’t change them, for the same reason as you can’t change a hardened sociopath. (And hey… Definitely some of them ARE sociopaths, too! Not all of them, though. But they are hardened, abusive, woman hating boundary violators, with zero empathy or compassion for us, whatsoever. Which, I don’t believe there is a way back from that. There is no way to make someone void of empathy and respect for women actually give a shit about us.) Plus they are right about one thing: they can physically overpower us, and we can’t physically force them out of our spaces, if it’s just one of us vs. one of them.

What we we can do, though: we can scream, and shout, and make a massive stink about it! Plus we can LEAVE, demonstratively, when they intrude upon us! Plus the more women that are there, in that situation, as it happens, the more we can get back at them, TOGETHER! Plus if enough women peak, and decide that they refuse to put up with any of this crap, we can change the laws! It’s already in the process of happening, in several places! And if we combine changing the law with publicly condemning them and screaming at them for violating us, plus calling the fucking COPS every tine we see one of these men in our spaces..? We can get them ARRESTED!!! Plus potentially, if we can get the law to agree with us on that, even get them listed as SEX OFFENDERS! Like they bloody damn should be!! Every single last one of them that intrudes upon our spaces on PURPOSE!!! 🤬 (Speaking as someone who has on a rare few occasions in my life entered the wrong bathroom by accident, I think they should be let off with just a warning if it is indeed by accident. Which you would be able to tell by their confusion, their embarrassment, their profuse, unconditional apology, and them making no attempt at opposite sex mimicry.) So yes: you are physically stronger than us, you don’t give a shit about us, and you even actively hate and often want to harm women like us, who say no to you! There’s no getting past that. But we can still make life HELL for you in other ways!!! We can wake up other women. Plus we can ally with men that are actually decent, for the sake of getting our spaces back.

And yeah: that’s why, even though I’ve reached a point of thinking it is pointless to try to reach, or change, these men..? (Possibly a 0.25 % exception to that rule still applies, or something. I know an EXTREMELY rare few, that can almost be counted on one hand, have changed their minds.) I still don’t think these videos are pointless. Because by showing these men for what they are, you can change the minds of previously naive women, and of men who actually care about us, that are NOT entitled and abusive narcissists!! Speaking as someone who used to ENTHUSIASTICALLY support this whole agenda in the past, because I was young and stupid, and did not know any better. But now..? Yeah. Hence why I’m in one way pretty grateful that they keep showing us who they are! There is only so much squinting and averting one’s eyes one can do, before one starts to actually see it. They shall 100% be their own downfall!! Currently playing a game featuring dark magic and curses. And something in me really wants to say: they are their own curse, and they have already cursed themselves!!! (What they’ve done to their bodies, which WILL eventually come back to bite them, health-wise, is also some really, really dark shit.) Things are not going to go well for them, and in the end, they’re NOT going to win! Plus I also really like that saying about a woman’s wrath. About how it takes a lot to ignite it, but once it’s ignited, it’s an EXTREMELY powerful force, that it’s now impossible to put out. Rings very true to me!! Which, you have ignited it already, and you just keep igniting it in more and more of us. You absolute dumbfuck idiots.

Reese's avatar

Maybe they WILL get in. Who says they leave under their own power or in the same condition in which they entered?